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December 10, 2008

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Michael Covington

Hey Joe -

I am hoping to attend this year as well, my first, and am completely stoked. However, I cannot understand why the StartWithXML conference was scheduled so close the TOC conference, in the same city of all places. They should have either dovetailed the two events so that those traveling in don't have to fly to NYC twice in the span of a couple of weeks (or worse, choose between one or the other). Aargh!

Joe Wikert

Hi Michael. I don't have a good answer to your timing question but I'll look into it. In the mean time, I also have a discount code to pass along to blog readers for StartWithXML. If you haven't already registered you can use the code jwstart to knock $200 of the reg fee. The registration site is here:

http://toc.oreilly.com/startwithxml/register.html

Andrew Savikas

Hi Michael,

That's a great question, and a fair point. Plans for TOC were already well underway when the opportunity to collaborate with the folks at IdeaLogical came up on the StartWithXML project (they had already been exploring the project on their own). As you probably know, O'Reilly puts on several conferences each year, and it can be challenging to schedule them in terms of time and place without presenting challenges for customers who want to attend multiple shows.

The StartWithXML event explores a specific subject in depth, for a smaller audience than the larger TOC Conference. They're intended to be complementary, and I'm sure you can understand that New York is a logical place to try a 1-day focused forum like that.

The opportunity to collaborate with the IdeaLogical company made sense for us (and we believe for our audience), though I do regret the logistical challenge it presents for some in that audience. I'd love to hear if there's interest in events like StartWithXML in other areas. You can contact me directly at andrew AT oreilly.com

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