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March 07, 2007


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Adam Jusko

It's strange how much time and money Microsoft has put in to its search engine without it getting demonstrably better.

One of the challenges in getting investment for our human-powered search engine Bessed ( has been that investors say it will cost too much to scale it. I say give me that money Microsoft has wasted on search and put it into our product and you'll get a lot better end product.

Thomas "Duffbert" Duff

That is SO true. Microsoft gets so much media coverage from announcements that are vaporware, and then no one remembers long enough to hold them accountable when the time period actually expires. Look how much press "Origami" got. And now?

Joe Wikert

Adam, good point about investments in me-too technologies that are home-grown at Microsoft and what that same amount of money could have acquired. It seems like some of Microsoft's best products over the years were acquired. The original Visual Basic and PowerPoint products come to mind, for example.

Thomas, ah yes, the good old "Origami" project... I almost forgot about that gem!

John Dodds


Gerald Buckley

John - Fanboy here... iPhone's an anomaly in the Apple scheme of things and if you don't know that... you should! It was *only* announced early because if Apple didn't do it, the FCC would have. If you were Apple which announcement would you rather put forward? Yours or theirs?

As for MSFT, the only difference between the two companies (outside of shareholder value... ouch!) is on the perception front. Are all manner of Windows platforms still shipping? Office? Remote Desktop? And all those other staples of the company that bouy it? Yep. Do they pre-announce way too much stuff and deliver what seems to be way too far downrange (if at all)? Yep. They're a MUCH bigger company. Have a much more established bucket of stuff to care for and maintain.

They need to take a page out of a lot of other playbooks and make their own new playbook if for no other reasons than shareholder value and the war against perceptions. Google, Apple and many other companies use brilliant marketing techniques to get maximum mileage. Microsoft sometimes doesn't even come across as "loving their own creations" (the engineers certainly are the exception).

Joe Wikert

To me, the difference between pre-announcements by Apple and Microsoft is that the former's new products rate much higher on the "cool" factor. When was the last time you saw an announcement by Microsoft and went "wow!"? When was the last Apple one where you didn't?!

P.S. -- This is coming from a guy who bought an original Macintosh in 1984 and hasn't bought a single Apple product since. I'm not an Apple fan, but I do respect the buzz they create.

Spectate Swamp

Personalised search. Neither can touch my Spectate Swamp
Desktop Search. Been hounding them on

I'll post on Googles site. Can't get MS to bite on a
search showdown.

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